Mafia 4 - Night 2, Deadline 10/7 9pm

[Z-licious]

Well following Picklz lead with wanting to figure out a lynch before the last day. At least toget ideas going.

I will say Josh, Picklz, KrisEddy, and Andy are on my list. With Andy being at the top for his bandwagon jumping and Josh right behind him.

Nate, you explained why Andy is on your list. Could you explain the other 3 please?

 

[dmention7]

Nate, can you explain why Picklz is on your list? I have seen pretty good arguments put forth for the rest of your list, but Picklz has remained notably absent from most scum suspicion (including mine, to be fair). Sorry if you have already posted your reason and I just missed it.

 

[dmention7]

Nate, you explained why Andy is on your list. Could you explain the other 3 please?

Whoa, hivemind.

 

[Big Nate]

For the simple fact that Picklz voted for me. Both KrisEddy and Picklz seem to be creating and alliance. They seem to be able to dig dirt on other but get defensive when the eye is looking at them.

 

[Z-licious]

For the simple fact that Picklz voted for me. Both KrisEddy and Picklz seem to be creating and alliance. They seem to be able to dig dirt on other but get defensive when the eye is looking at them.

So voting for someone is scummy?

Also can you point out a post where "the eye is looking at me". Have I posted something that makes you feel uneasy? Do you need me to explain one of my posts? Concrete examples are much more convincing that sweeping generalizations.

 

[dmention7]

VOTE: NATE (There, I popped my voting cherry)

While it's true that there has not been a lot of attention on Kris/Eddy and Picklz (at least since Kris's "I am scum" post), they have been putting forth a good amount of town-oriented effort. This, combined with some of Nate's previous actions that have been well-discussed make me feel justified in placing a vote.

 

[Picklz]

I don't have an alliance with anyone. I vote for the person who appears to be most likely to be scum.

If we contrast Kris' and Eddy's posts with yours Nate - I suspect most would feel you have a higher likelihood of being Scum than KrisEddy. I'm still extremely suspicious of Nate, but feel Josh's contradictory posts, slightly more 'lay in the weeds' game play style, etc all speak highly of scum.

 

[Big Nate]

Jay, why do you feel the need to keep insinuating that I would be a dangerous scum if I were one? Would like to back that up with posts I have made that sound scummy or are you just planting seeds of dissent towards me? Wouldn't that be paranoia or fear mongering? Back up (your posts) or shut up.

Seriously, stop. All that would accomplish is paranoia and fear mongering.

Lol. Picklz hasn't accused me of anything and I have not seen any posts worth questioning him about. As soon as I see him crack I'll jump down his throat and ask the hard questions just like I have been doing to other people.

You may as well accuse me and Andy of being scum, or me and AJ.

When have I accused anyone without something to backup my reasoning? I've questioned Tom, Nate, Josh, and now you but I've only voted for Josh because of the reasons I've listed. You saying "Eddy would make a dangerous scum" adds nothing to the conversation and I see no reason behind it beyond inciting paranoia in me. Why would you want to do that anyway? Scum can just knife me and town doesn't need/want to rely on paranoia.

You probably mean well by saying this but I do kind of wish you and AJ would stop praising me for helping town. That paints a huge target on my back for a knife and I really feel no danger of being lynched at this point.

A scum wouldn't take out someone who sides with him either. Less chance of getting voted out if someone believes you're town when you're scum.

And as far as I'm concerned I have no allies. I see all of you as scum and will analyze your posts accordingly.

So voting for someone is scummy?

Also can you point out a post where "the eye is looking at me". Have I posted something that makes you feel uneasy? Do you need me to explain one of my posts? Concrete examples are much more convincing that sweeping generalizations.

Eddy look at every post there all of them are lashes to say the least when people are just attempting to post some theories. You are the only one that will just turn everything back on the person posting. Case in point is your "sweeping generalizations" comment to me. I was just pointing out my obsevations and the moment your name pops up you lash out at me.

VOTE: NATE (There, I popped my voting cherry)

While it's true that there has not been a lot of attention on Kris/Eddy and Picklz (at least since Kris's "I am scum" post), they have been putting forth a good amount of town-oriented effort. This, combined with some of Nate's previous actions that have been well-discussed make me feel justified in placing a vote.

Seems like Jay is going to vote for me based off of others thoughts and not his own.


With that

VOTE: EDDY

 

[Z-licious]

Tom, I see you posting all morning in the chatbox. Come in here and answer my questions!

 

[Picklz]

I do agree that Jay pointing out that a GOOD player would be more dangerous as Scum than Town is just a fact and not really a big deal. But I don't see Eddy's responses towards the things Jay said all THAT bad.Eddy is speaking directly to each post rather than generally about posts which is much more Town than Scum.

Nate is now targeting a person I believe to be someone acting rather Town like, far more than a couple others here and whom is probably one of the more active (dangerous) players to Scum if he is Town. This is concerning.

 

[Z-licious]

Eddy look at every post there all of them are lashes to say the least when people are just attempting to post some theories. You are the only one that will just turn everything back on the person posting. Case in point is your "sweeping generalizations" comment to me. I was just pointing out my obsevations and the moment your name pops up you lash out at me.

Nate, I'm reading through your quotes of me and the only time I "lash out" at people are when I was referring to Jay's baseless claims that I would make a dangerous scum, which I stated, and still believe add nothing to the conversation.

Do you really believe those other quotes are me lashing out at people? The last quote from me in particular is just me asking you questions because I want to hear your answers to them. I will take this time to point out that you still have not answered my questions and I do expect answers to them. I don't ask questions for fun. I ask questions because I want to hear what people have to say about them.

 

[Big Nate]

Nate, I'm reading through your quotes of me and the only time I "lash out" at people are when I was referring to Jay's baseless claims that I would make a dangerous scum, which I stated, and still believe add nothing to the conversation.

Do you really believe those other quotes are me lashing out at people? The last quote from me in particular is just me asking you questions because I want to hear your answers to them. I will take this time to point out that you still have not answered my questions and I do expect answers to them. I don't ask questions for fun. I ask questions because I want to hear what people have to say about them.

Saying I was using sweeping generalizations is a lash.

Also Picklz I am only answering Eddies questions.

 

[Z-licious]

Saying I was using sweeping generalizations is a lash.

Also Picklz I am only answering Eddies questions.

how is that a lash? You posted opinions without anything to back them up, I asked for something to backup your opinions.

 

[AJ]

looks like we are headed to a stalemate regardless. Dan, what's the current vote count?

 

[Picklz]

2 for nate, 2 for josh, 1 for eddy is where we sit right now.

 

[Z-licious]

looks like we are headed to a stalemate regardless. Dan, what's the current vote count?

I don't think we are headed into a stalemate. I don't have a vote active right now but I would vote for either nate or Josh who are the current leaders. If someone could come up with a convincing case to lynch anyone else, I would vote for that person too. I think before the end of thursday we should come to a consensus on who to lynch though. I'm still feeling most strongly to lynch Josh but after nate's last few posts he's climbing the meters.

 

[dmention7]

We've still got a whole day left to get things sorted out.

Also, Nate, while it may be true that I am basing some of my vote off discussions posted by other players, I think it's misleading to say I'm "voting based on other people's thoughts and not my own." Your response about why you are voting for Picklz is what pushed me over the edge and made me feel strongly enough to vote.

 

[Picklz]

I agree we still have plenty of time. What do you guys think about coming to a consensus and acting by around lunchtime tomorrow (Friday) so we don't end up fucking things up again like we did Day 1?

 

[dmention7]

Eddy, should you find yourself in the position where either Nate or Josh need one more vote to lynch, but are not tied (one has 2 votes, the other has 4).... would you swing the hammer in the interest of lynching vs not lynching?

 

[mndsm]

Eddy- what questions am I not answering? I didn't see me referenced. Short of it is- I was leaning towards swanny. Nate came in and started acting a little sketchy. HOWEVER- Swanny bandwagon voted Nate when he was close to the noose.......