Mafia 4 - Night 2, Deadline 10/7 9pm

[Picklz]

Vote: Tom

Constantly claiming he is being framed before anyone points the finger, telling us, even daring us to vote for him, every accusation has been of Scum and has been dead wrong... it has to stop here. I can't say I'm 100% convinced Tom is Scum but the more I read and the more time goes on I'm becoming more and more certain.

 

[mndsm]

I feel one of three scenario's exist, either A) We don't have a cop that is currently alive, B) They have investigated all townies up to this point (likely dead ones) or C) We have a cop but he has been role-blocked.

My reasoning for this is as follows - if we had a cop that had investigated a scum alive, he would be smart to just come out and say it at this point and we kill one of the two scum, increasing our odd's of winning. If the cop has investigated all Townies that ARENT in danger of being lynched he would be smart to stay quiet, and likewise if the cop has been roleblocked and hasn't learned anything, makes no sense to pipe up.

We'd know if a role had been killed, hence the whole vanilla townie thing.

 

[mndsm]

Vote: Tom

Constantly claiming he is being framed before anyone points the finger, telling us, even daring us to vote for him, every accusation has been of Scum and has been dead wrong... it has to stop here. I can't say I'm 100% convinced Tom is Scum but the more I read and the more time goes on I'm becoming more and more certain.

Wanna bet on it?

 

[mndsm]

So, I'm noticing a stall in the action, is this purposeful? Where's Jay been?

 

[AJ]

Where's Jay been?

 

[mndsm]

I'm beginning to suspect that myself AJ. I have an idea.... UNVOTE AJ, VOTE JAY

 

[Picklz]

Innnnteresting *goes back to look at some of Jay's posts*

 

[mndsm]

Innnnteresting *goes back to look at some of Jay's posts*

Part of the reason why I did what I did. I've been reading his posts, constantly, looking for holes. IMO, there aren't any. He's played a FLAWLESS town hand so far, from what I can see. So either A- he is the proverbial perfect town, and no one has yet had any reason for calling him out, or B- He's one of the best scum i've ever seen. Which is almost 3 games worth, now. But the basis is, he's basically never been called into question over anything, and I'm not 100% certain he's even had a vote. I need to close the holes there.

 

[AJ]

Before I even think about an unvote for Andy I need to hear more from him. Cause he's played the EXACT opposite of Jay in my opinion and still deserves some real thought to being a scum member.

 

[WhiteSpy9]

I'm so busy at work. I should be able to catch up this week.

If you gotta replace me, so be it.

 

[Picklz]

So we have multiple players that have made mistakes and look like they could at least plausably be Scum - yet you are voting for Jay. I'm not sure I follow what you are hoping to learn or how you plan to learn it. I feel like this is another ploy to redirect attention from you and/or Andy. I'll wait and see what happens though.

 

[mndsm]

So we have multiple players that have made mistakes and look like they could at least plausably be Scum - yet you are voting for Jay. I'm not sure I follow what you are hoping to learn or how you plan to learn it. I feel like this is another ploy to redirect attention from you and/or Andy. I'll wait and see what happens though.

Simple. Plausibility hasn't served me very well at all thusfar. JT was possibly scum due to what I percieved to be a critical mistake. That didn't work. Swanny was the next obvious choice, he got lynched, he was town. Eddy was on the list, he turned up dead. This entire time, Jay's been playing quite straight as a town, no suspicion towards him whatsoever. No one's even voted for him, prior to now. The more I read into it, the more I believe he's been hiding under our noses. While I highly doubt my suspicions will turn out anything for me to use against him, I figure why not take a swing. If we don't get a scum on this lynch, the game is over.

 

[Picklz]

You make no sense whatsoever Tom, therefore my vote is staying with you.

Twice now (D1 and D2) you've voted for a person that had solid town tendencies because you believed they were scum, both times those people had other townies believing they were town, and very little overall vote support. Now you are investigating another person that looks VERY much like Town. This is a broken record.

 

[mndsm]

Eh, each to his own.

 

[Big Nate]

Simple. Plausibility hasn't served me very well at all thusfar. JT was possibly scum due to what I percieved to be a critical mistake. That didn't work. Swanny was the next obvious choice, he got lynched, he was town. Eddy was on the list, he turned up dead. This entire time, Jay's been playing quite straight as a town, no suspicion towards him whatsoever. No one's even voted for him, prior to now. The more I read into it, the more I believe he's been hiding under our noses. While I highly doubt my suspicions will turn out anything for me to use against him, I figure why not take a swing. If we don't get a scum on this lynch, the game is over.

Thom I am beginning to see what Picklz is saying here.

Why are you always looking at the people who look most like town?

 

[WhiteSpy9]

And then those people are NK'd?

We might be onto something here....

Thom I am beginning to see what Picklz is saying here.

Why are you always looking at the people who look most like town?

 

[mndsm]

Thom I am beginning to see what Picklz is saying here.

Why are you always looking at the people who look most like town?

Looking most like town? Uhhhh. Jay's been the first one that wasn't totally scummy. The reason I'm looking at him is well.... he doesn't look scummy. AT ALL. He's TOO clean, IMO. You also have to remember, I A- haven't attempted to RALLY a vote around anyone, and B- my vote hasn't amounted to shit this entire time. Seems like a pretty fucking awful way to play a scum hand, IMO. Look at the facts.

 

[Picklz]

First one? JT had the first solid idea for a strategy that would HELP town (that didn't end up being workable) and Eddy was doing probably 5x the amount of scum hunting that anyone else here was or is doing.

The way I see it you are right, you haven't really rallied around any of the popular voting targets...makes sense to me... day 1 we no lynch which is great for Scum, you keep your distance so you aren't at fault when a townie gets lynched on day 2, you TRY and rally support to vote some of the more active town players out, when it fails you night kill them and fall back on the fact that it's too obvious and you must be getting framed.

This is the third time your directing attention to the 'town' player that must be scum...we know how that worked out the first two times.

Them are the facts. I honestly had my suspicions elsewhere but it's getting harder and harder for me not to look your way tom, and these posts aren't really making it better IMO you're just solidifying my reasons.

 

[mndsm]

And then those people are NK'd?

We might be onto something here....

Thom I am beginning to see what Picklz is saying here.

Why are you always looking at the people who look most like town?

ALTHOUGH- these two running back to back after a picklz vote, and picklz and I battling, seems awfully convenient. I'm not quite sure I'm ready to change my vote yet.... but this is amusing.

 

[mndsm]

First one? JT had the first solid idea for a strategy that would HELP town (that didn't end up being workable) and Eddy was doing probably 5x the amount of scum hunting that anyone else here was or is doing.

The way I see it you are right, you haven't really rallied around any of the popular voting targets...makes sense to me... day 1 we no lynch which is great for Scum, you keep your distance so you aren't at fault when a townie gets lynched on day 2, you TRY and rally support to vote some of the more active town players out, when it fails you night kill them and fall back on the fact that it's too obvious and you must be getting framed.

This is the third time your directing attention to the 'town' player that must be scum...we know how that worked out the first two times.

Them are the facts. I honestly had my suspicions elsewhere but it's getting harder and harder for me not to look your way tom, and these posts aren't really making it better IMO you're just solidifying my reasons.

Wanna bet on whether or not I'm scum? You never answered me the last time.