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PG v.3 Exhaust Mani

JohnnyT

New Member
....and I thought I was done.

Couldn't pass this baby up. Ordered it Monday, it shipped Tuesday, received Friday, install is tomorrow (Saturday 8/29).

V.3 was revised to have increased pipe walls, no runners near the hotside coupler, lots of clearance, longer runners, better flow and fitment, and an EGT bung.

Many options with this mani as well - t3/t4 flange, EWG, and jethot coating.









I'll get installed pics tomorrow, with driving impressions, and maybe video.

WOOT!!
 

Picklz

SUDO Make me a SAMCH
That's honestly a pretty nice lookin piece. Looking forward to seeing it installed / hearing how it does.
 

JohnnyT

New Member
I couldn't justify a DCR mani for $1,500. It was overkill for my set-up. Only other option was DNP and those are impossible to find. This only set me back $450, and I'm glad I waited out this long for it, as PG's final version looks to be the absolute best and perfect for my needs.

I can't wait to get this thing on!
 
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shadyspeed3

Guest
just watch out. it seems once you get well modded you get into an accident! lol me, the kid who rolled at brainerd,ect.


sweet mani! where are you for power at the moment and where do you want to be?
 

JohnnyT

New Member
The cosmic curse is transforming and spreading into other species of color. We're all doomed.

I'm at 285awhp/339awtq. right now. I'm expecting this mani to put me around 315/365. I'd like to get a MAP intake mani + meth + re-worked turbo from Bryan Nickell and just be done with this, but honestly who the hell knows at this point. I change my mind all the time.
 

JohnnyT

New Member
Now for the install....oh man here we go.

I first noticed the mani didn't come with a plug for the EGT bung. No big deal, head to Home Depot and picked up a 1/8" NPT brass plug.

Obviously, the intercooler was removed. Pie.

Next, gotta remove the studs on the OEM manifold. Not exactly easy to reach, and an absolute nightmare to break loose. Ratcheting wrenches were our friends. Thought we got all of them off but there's one that is absolutely impossible to get to that's underneath the middle of the mani. Ratcheting wrench wouldn't loosen it, and if we got a ratchet in there the left side of the mani was covering it so there was no way to loosen it. Fix? Grab your stepdad's sawzall and cut the old mani in half and get the bitch out! Well, we attempted that but it was too thick, and we were just wasting our time. After staring at it hoping our magical mind powers would loosen it my buddy wedged a belt loop onto a ratchet and tugged up like a pulley and with the help of PB blaster that son of a whore was loose!

With joyful glee we advanced onto the next step - the turbo flange. 4 bolts on top, all easy to get to. Got those out. Sweet.

With the aid of a prybar, we got the old mani out and stomped on it a few times, and later poured a marginal amount of Courvoisier to commemorate my ugly and now dead brother.

We could see unicorns and rainbows dancing in heaven. The end of this joyful excursion was near. Fitting the new mani in took a solid 15 minutes of Tetris memory recollection. To reference this, it pretty much went down like this:

[video=youtube;cg_V1_3t04g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg_V1_3t04g[/video]

Alas, we got it in. It's basically gotta be tightened down one side at a time as very few of the studs protruded enough to even get the nuts on. It was a VERY tight fit. Once some of the top row nuts went on, it settled and we were on top of the turbo flange. We tightened the rest of the studs, and came to the turbo flange.





FUCK. The flange wasn't clocked correctly and now the turbo flange studs won't go in. It was a Saturday, PG was closed, we were tired, bruised, cut up, and now incredibly frustrated, and essentially completely fucked considering we cut up the stock mani. Time to think things over, and find a friend's vehicle to borrow for a few days and wait for another mani. After thinking about it some more, I had an idea of loosening the nuts on the head, and tightening down the turbo flange bolts first. I had to work all day on Sunday, so I had to push those efforts over to Monday and get an explanation from Jeff @ PG and go from there...

After sending Jeff @ PG the pics and an explanation, he promptly sent out another mani on Monday. He also said the turbo bracket must be loosened to twist the flange enough to line up for the manifold. Well, now that both manifolds were off the car I figure what the hell, let's take another stab at this. I didn't get my new(er) manifold yet, and I needed to get this damn car back on the road. Tuesday evening comes around, I'm off work and ready to get this bitch done.

The turbo bracket is easy to get a bolt or wrench on, but that's where the easy stops. The bracket to the engine block has one easy bolt to reach, but the other is conveniently blocked by a coolant line. We decided to opt for the one bolt connecting to the turbo instead. How are bolts on a 3 year old car this freakin' tough to remove? Getting enough torque from the top wasn't working so we had to go from the bottom. What do we see there? A diff. Sweet, no cleararance. Fuck it, we head to Sears to grab a 3/8 and 1/2 universal. The 1/2 worked and the one bolt on the turbo bracket was loose, allowing plenty of movement to correctly clock the flange over and get those studs in. Next was to finish tightening the studs on the head and put the intercooler back on. No problems there, she fired up and I gave it a few quick revs to listen for leaks. Had one at the turbo flange but we tightened it with a wrench, so after getting a ratchet on there we were solid.

Maybe it's just me, but this manifold actually made the exhaust slightly quieter (at least at idle and low revs). I've only gotten on it a couple times, and it's definitely a deeper tone as well. The grunt of the power can be EASILY felt after 4,500rpm. It pulls and pulls and does not quit. It does feel similar to a downpipe install power-wise. I will be doing some more driving today as this adventure has finally ended. I will also hopefully be getting video this week.

All in all, I honestly commend Jeff @ PG and his efforts to help me. I truely had no idea the turbo bracket had to be loosened so after hearing that I had much more confidence that the manifold I had would actually work. I haven't seen any exhaust mani how-to's but seriously, that MUST be noted.

I'll update this with video later, but for now I only have this installed pic:

 

mndsm

I'M OFFENDED!
Looks rad, but you shoulda had that shizz port matched before you bolted it on there, IMO.
 

JohnnyT

New Member
If I was going for a monster set up I'd have gotten it coated, EWG, port matched, blah blah.

After this experience, I realize how badly I may be in need of a beater if I go any farther.

I know my goal of 300awhp has been accomplished, this just may be the end of it for me.
 

JohnnyT

New Member
Nah it's still a daily, but when doing an install like this I have no back-up for when shit hits the fan. I scrambled and was lucky to have a friend let me bum his Yukon.

This car is all out fun, everytime I'm in it.
 

JohnnyT

New Member
VIDEO!!! It ain't great - see if I can do better this weekend, I got caught behind a truck.

[video=youtube;Q18yBBoqz7M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q18yBBoqz7M[/video]
 

JohnnyT

New Member
The windows were about 1/4 of the way down. I had 'em all the way down one time and the wind noise was horrible. Actually turned out better than I thought with my little 'ol P&S camera.
 

dmention7

Hater
Yeah, you captured the exhaust sound much better than most people do with in-car vids. Can't wait to hear it in person.
 
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