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COBB tells Mazdaspeed/owners to F*&^ OFF! Basically

dmention7

Hater
Well Trey from Cobb did a press release, well spoken. This is the piece that should of been released not what Gary said.....
<SNIP>
Thanks for posting that. I had a feeling the actual case was far more along the lines of that press release, as opposed to the "Big F U", and one of the reasons I've refrained from criticizing their decision to end future R&D.

Hopefully the products they've released to date will continue to be of use in the future. It'd be a shame for all that work to end up for nothing, especially for those who've purchased an AP already.
 

Jesse MS3GT

Querulous
After reading the latest statement from Cobb I no longer have any ill sentiments toward the company. That clarified the intended message and was very polite. Might just have to purchase that exhaust now :)
 

JohnnyT

New Member
Thanks for posting that. I had a feeling the actual case was far more along the lines of that press release, as opposed to the "Big F U", and one of the reasons I've refrained from criticizing their decision to end future R&D.

Hopefully the products they've released to date will continue to be of use in the future. It'd be a shame for all that work to end up for nothing, especially for those who've purchased an AP already.
From what I've read recently, Christian (from Cobb) is not done working with us, and is going to inform us on how this ECU operates. He seems to have some new data to share, and I'm still anxious to see how the ATR software will play out for the current AP users. I won't buy one quite yet, but potentially soon.

Rawyzf said:
You can run an OTS map, it won't be perfect, but it will be better than stock
I've asked around, the consensus is there's no way I can run an OTS map, and there's no sense getting an e-tune when ATR is just around the corner.
 

04cobra

New Member
I blame the stupid ricers....go back to your hondas, if you are going to whine so much.

With that said, will the current COBB AP, still be better than just leaving it stock? This is my daily driver, so im not looking to make 400+ HP, I just want it to hold boost to redline at least and let me boost in 1st gear >.<
 

JohnnyT

New Member
I blame the stupid ricers....go back to your hondas, if you are going to whine so much.

With that said, will the current COBB AP, still be better than just leaving it stock? This is my daily driver, so im not looking to make 400+ HP, I just want it to hold boost to redline at least and let me boost in 1st gear >.<
Completely stock? The AP will be GREAT for you. You can dial in 16psi in every gear and your throttle plate will stay open 'til redline. Roast those tires!
 

dmention7

Hater
Yes, from everything I've read, the AP will benefit those who are stock or near stock the most.

EDIT: at least, until you start putting a professional tune in the mix ;)
 

JohnnyT

New Member
ATR is FREE!!!

That alone is enough for me to buy an AP.

edit:
The guy at Cobb who took his head out of his ass said:
I have had some time to reflect on the developments over the last couple of days and I feel that I owe the MAZDASPEED community an apology.

I am relatively new here at COBB Tuning and am very excited to be a part of this team. I believe in what COBB Tuning is trying to accomplish in the marketplace and know that we have the talent to accomplish the goals that we set for ourselves. I have a great deal of respect for the engineers and calibrators that dedicate so much of their time and put forth huge effort to make the AccessPORT products the best they can be. I see the long hours that sales and tech support put into taking care of our customers' needs. Over the past six months I have come to know the people that are the driving force behind the company you know as COBB Tuning. In my enthusiasm for being a member of this team, I have taken the comments on several MAZDASPEED forums as personal attacks on me and my fellow COBB Tuning employees, and have vented my frustration in an inappropriate way.

I allowed a small minority of offensive forum members to get the better of me, and in lashing out at them, I have inadvertently offended a large population of the community that was not the target of my criticism. The part that I find most embarrassing is that I was influenced by people that have no interest in our products whatsoever, who post solely to stir controversy. I want to offer my sincere apology to the entire MAZDASPEED community for comments that you found offensive and promoted a negative stereotype for the community as a whole. Just like all other forums I have participated in, the vast majority are good natured people sharing a common enthusiasm for a cool car. I do know better, yet I let my emotions cloud my judgment.

I would also like to offer an additional apology to all of the MAZDASPEED enthusiasts that have supported COBB Tuning throughout the development of our products and stuck with us through the difficult times as we explored and learned about this platform. Although it was not intentional, I do see why my comments were perceived as a "slap in the face" and how you feel you are being unjustly punished and abandoned. Our decision was based on the actions of a minority, and the COBB supporters that have remained quiet and faithful, anticipating future features, were the ones we asked to bear the burden of that decision. That was not a fair decision for us to make.

In an effort to make reparations, COBB Tuning will move forward with implementing the Launch Control and No Lift Shift features on the MAZDASPEED AccessPORT that so many have been waiting for. Launch Control and No Lift Shift will be implemented in the same form as on other platforms. Launch Control will allow the user to set an RPM that the engine will rev to, building partial boost pressure, while the clutch is in and the throttle is at maximum. No Lift Shift will allow the user to set an RPM that the engine will maintain between shifts while the clutch is in and the throttle is at maximum, maintaining partial boost pressure. Development on these features is not complete and we will provide availability dates when we are 100% confident in their accuracy.

We understand that many of you just want to use the AccessPORT with OTS maps, but variance of the MAZDASPEED from the factory has prevented our OTS maps from working properly on some vehicles. In an effort to assist these customers, COBB Tuning will release a full featured beta version of AccessTUNER Race software for the MAZDASPEED3 & 6. There will be no charge for this beta version of AccessTUNER Race and the software will be released on April 20th as previously stated.

In closing, I must admit that this has been quite a learning experience for me. For what it is worth, I assure you that I will not let my emotions generate another outburst like this in the future. I hope that each of you will accept my apology and not allow my indiscretion to tarnish all of the positive advances that my COBB Tuning colleagues have brought to MAZDASPEED enthusiasts.

Sincerely,

Gary Sheehan
Director of Marketing
COBB Tuning
 
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cosmicspd3

New Member
JEEZZ so glad that happened. I think Cobb/Gary saw the uproar from people who didnt "hate" cobb and realized yes they do have a user base that likes them. Its like a evil harsh april fools joke. I just hope they release some products still, like that bpv. I was saving myself for it...
 

Workdawg

NARWHAL
My bet is that Gary felt personally attacked and so he flipped out. Trey Cobb saw and reamed him out, so he had to apologize.
 
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WhiteSpy9

Guest
nice. I can at least respect the apology, even if he was talked into doing so.
hopefully they do come through on those promises on the future enhancements of the AP.
If so, I know I'll be getting one.
 
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