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AutoEXE TMIC vs ETS TMIC

Big Nate

Big Nate

Chaos Engineer
The front mount will not make shit for power until we can get some good tuning. There is to much pressure drop and we will all loose power with a front mount.
 
AJ

AJ

110 HP of FURY!
The FMIC will be 10 fold better sine the top mounts heat soak so damn fast. For overally efficiency on the dyno and on the street, I'm going to end up going right for the FMIC when the time comes to upgrade the IC for me.
 
Jesse MS3GT

Jesse MS3GT

Querulous
Speed6 Guy said:
The front mount will not make shit for power until we can get some good tuning. There is to much pressure drop and we will all loose power with a front mount.
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I agree, Im not going FMIC. Id rather cut my hood and make a scoop or get a Co2 sprayer.
 
RoadRageMotors

RoadRageMotors

New Member
Speed6 Guy said:
The front mount will not make shit for power until we can get some good tuning. There is to much pressure drop and we will all loose power with a front mount.
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nate i hate to say this but you are way wrong. there is a 3psi drop in the stock core we actualy gain 3psi by changeing to the front mount. its not a volume issue its all in the design.

dont apply dsm and wrx rules of thumb to the mrz motor because they dont apply
 
Big Nate

Big Nate

Chaos Engineer
RoadRageMotors said:
nate i hate to say this but you are way wrong. there is a 3psi drop in the stock core we actualy gain 3psi by changeing to the front mount. its not a volume issue its all in the design.

dont apply dsm and wrx rules of thumb to the mrz motor because they dont apply
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Well have you made one and put it on? Because if so then you may be correct. I have personaly seen one on and not make power but loose it. There needs to be a tuneing tool and then it will work. O and also the turbo in the speed6 is a peak power and almost peak PSI so don't count on that thing turning the car to a powerhouse. So like LSE said you can make anything look like it made power by fudging the dyno numbers and what I saw with the FMIC was it was loosing power so take that and do with it what you will.
 
mndsm

mndsm

I'M OFFENDED!
Agreed. Plus with the increase in piping you'll probably lose some boost pressure, or spool time. I still like the idea of the TMIC.
 
N

niterydr

Legendary Status!
The factory wastegate setup is electronic and operates in certain parameters. There is a target boost and a specific percentage of wastegate duty cycle available. If the fmic system results in a higher system pressure drop it *COULD* become an issue where you loose boost, pending how much the OEM allows for compensation.
However intercooler changes really effect engine VE and than can throw off required fuel drastically. A cooler air charge will require in more dense air which will require more fuel. Since your MAF sensors with the MAP checks read pre intercooler, it wouldn't catch the changes.
 
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JustROLLIN

Guest
So if the car can compensate for pressure drop changes with the FMIC its prolly the better way to go then, right? We know cooling will be significantly increased over a TMIC and will the addtional compensation, things should be ok. Looks like COBB is going the FMIC approach as well.
 
RoadRageMotors

RoadRageMotors

New Member
JustROLLIN said:
So if the car can compensate for pressure drop changes with the FMIC its prolly the better way to go then, right? We know cooling will be significantly increased over a TMIC and will the addtional compensation, things should be ok. Looks like COBB is going the FMIC approach as well.
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in short yes its the better way to go.
 
RoadRageMotors

RoadRageMotors

New Member
LSE Performance said:
The factory wastegate setup is electronic and operates in certain parameters. There is a target boost and a specific percentage of wastegate duty cycle available. If the fmic system results in a higher system pressure drop it *COULD* become an issue where you loose boost, pending how much the OEM allows for compensation.
However intercooler changes really effect engine VE and than can throw off required fuel drastically. A cooler air charge will require in more dense air which will require more fuel. Since your MAF sensors with the MAP checks read pre intercooler, it wouldn't catch the changes.
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thats why i posted a link to data logs and thermals of the new frontmount instead of to just dynos
 
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