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Z-licious
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And another saying it's a G37
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives...pe-2008-CAR-review-and-video/?content-block=0
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives...pe-2008-CAR-review-and-video/?content-block=0
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JustROLLIN
Guest
I am still not sold on the looks, but if the performance lives up the hype it should be good.
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Z-licious
Guest
From what I'm reading in the reviews, it's comparable to a G37 for mustang money. And that's exactly what I'm looking for.
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Z-licious
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http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/130_0902_2010_hyundai_genesis_coupe/index.html
"For the first time Hyundai is offering up a real performance-oriented vehicle. Taking an already popular Mitsubishi 2.0L turbocharged 4B11 engine and mating it longitudinally to a RWD chassis looks like it might be the key to their underground success."
Woot!
"For the first time Hyundai is offering up a real performance-oriented vehicle. Taking an already popular Mitsubishi 2.0L turbocharged 4B11 engine and mating it longitudinally to a RWD chassis looks like it might be the key to their underground success."
Woot!
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Z-licious
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And Hyundai prices themselves out of the market!
CHICAGO, Feb. 11, 2009 – Hyundai Motor America announced pricing for the new Genesis Coupe, starting at $22,000 for a well-equipped 210-horsepower, 2.0-liter, turbocharged, four-cylinder engine 2.0T model and $25,000 for the 306-horsepower, 3.8-liter, V6 engine model. Genesis Coupe will begin arriving at Hyundai dealerships later in the month.
“Genesis sedan set a new benchmark for the premium sedan segment and we think Genesis Coupe will do the same in the sport coupe arena,” said John Krafcik, Hyundai Motor America president and chief executive officer. “From our 30-mpg 2.0T with its low-pressure, intercooled, four-cylinder turbo, to the 3.8-liter Track model with 306 horsepower and Brembo® braking system, Genesis Coupe offers a wide range of powertrain and performance choices for driving enthusiasts of all stripes.”
2010 Genesis Coupe Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Pricing
Model Engine Package Transmission MSRP
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Six-Speed Manual $22,000
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Five-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $23,250
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Premium Six-Speed Manual $24,250
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Premium Five-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $25,500
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Track Six-Speed Manual $26,750
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. R-Spec * Six-Speed Manual $23,750
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Six-Speed Manual $25,000
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 ZF Six-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $26,500
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Grand Touring Six-Speed Manual $27,500
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Grand Touring ZF Six-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $29,000
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Track Six-Speed Manual $29,500
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Track ZF Six-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $31,000
Note: Add $750 freight charge
* Denotes mid-model year availability
Genesis Coupe 2.0T: A more efficient take on the rEAR-Wheel drive sport coupe
Standard equipment includes:
* 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged, intercooled 4-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering 210 hp, 223 lb.-ft. of torque (at just 2,000 rpm), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and a top speed of 137 mph
* M6VR1 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: A5SR1 5-speed electronic automatic transmission with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic® controls)
* 18-inch Euroflange alloy wheels with staggered Bridgestone Potenza RE92A tires (225/45VR18 front, 245/45VR18 rear)
* Electronic Stability Control with Traction control, ABS, Electronic Brake Force Distribution and Brake Assist
* 12.6-inch ventilated front rotors with 60mm single piston floating caliper
* 12.4-inch solid rear rotors with 43mm single piston floating caliper
* Sport-tuned MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and five-link rear independent suspension, 24mm front stabilizer bar, 19mm rear stabilizer bar
* Front strut brace
* Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
* Tire Pressure Monitoring System
* Front, side, side air curtain air bags
* Active front head restraints
* Driver’s lumbar support
* Black-out front lower fascia
* Air conditioning
* Satin silver and chrome interior accents
* Remote keyless entry system with alarm
* Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
* Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
* AM/FM/XM/MP3/CD audio system with six speakers
* iPod/ USB Aux jack connectivity
* Steering wheel audio controls
* Cruise control
* Trip computer
* Projector beam headlamps with auto light control
* Bluetooth® hands-free connectivity with steering wheel controls
The 2.0T Premium model adds or substitutes:
* Power driver’s seat
* 360-watt AM/FM/XM/MP3/CD-changer Infinity® premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
* Proximity Key with push-button start
* Auto-dimming mirror with HomeLink® and compass
* Power tilt and slide sunroof
* Navigation system (mid-model year availability, pricing TBA)
The factory-tuned 2.0T Track model builds from the 2.0T Premium, adding/substituting:
* 19-inch gunmetal-finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (225/40YR19 front, 245/40YR19 rear)
* Unique Brembo® braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
* Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, front strut brace
* Torsen-type limited-slip differential
* Black leather bolster seats with high-friction red cloth insert
* Aluminum pedals
* Aero wipers
* Rear spoiler
* Xenon HID (High Intensity Discharge) headlights
* Fog lamps
* Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
* Navigation system (mid-model year availability, pricing TBA)
* Note: Automatic transmission not available with 2.0T Track
Later in the model year, a tuner-focused performance model, R-Spec, will arrive at Hyundai dealerships. Genesis Coupe R-Spec is the ultimate upgradeable, affordable, turbocharged rear-wheel drive performance platform. R-Spec equipment includes:
* 2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering 210 hp, an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and a top speed of 137 mph
* 6-speed close-ratio manual transmission
* Electronic Stability Control with Traction Control, ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
* 19-inch gunmetal-finish alloy wheels with staggered-width high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (225/40YR19 front, 245/40YR19 rear)
* Brembo® braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
* Track-tuned suspension (higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, front strut brace)
* Torsen-type limited-slip differential
* Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
* Tire Pressure Monitoring System
* Front, side, side air curtain air bags
* Active front head restraints
* Driver’s lumbar support
* Air conditioning
* Remote keyless entry with alarm
* Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
* Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
* AM/FM/XM/MP3/CD audio system with six speakers
* iPod/ USB/Aux jack connectivity
* Projector beam headlamps
* Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
* Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec
Genesis 3.8: 306 horsepower and standard leather interior – a new benchmark for performance and refinement in its class
Standard equipment includes 2.0T equipment, and adds or substitutes:
* 3.8-liter DOHC V6 engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering 306 hp and a top speed of 149 mph
* M6VR2 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: ZF 6HP19 6-speed electronic automatic with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic® controls)
* Black leather seating surfaces
* Fully automatic temperature control
* Premium door sill plates
* Chrome front fascia accents
* Fog lights
In addition to 3.8 equipment, the 3.8 Grand Touring adds or substitutes:
* Unique brown leather seat interior environment
* Power driver’s seat
* Heated driver and passenger seat
* 360-watt AM/FM/XM/MP3/CD-changer Infinity® premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
* Proximity key with push-button start
* Xenon HID (High Intensity Discharge) headlamps
* Auto-dimming mirror with HomeLink® and compass
* Heated mirrors with outside turn signal indicators
* Backup warning system
* Power tilt and slide sunroof
* Navigation system (mid-model year availability, pricing TBA)
The factory-tuned 3.8 Track model deletes the backup warning system and chrome front fascia accents from the Grand Touring model, and adds or substitutes:
* Black leather seating surfaces
* 19-inch gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (225/40YR19 front, 245/40YR19 rear)
* Brembo® braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
* Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
* Torsen-type limited-slip differential
* Aluminum pedals
* Aero wipers
* Rear spoiler
* Black-out front lower fascia
* Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
CHICAGO, Feb. 11, 2009 – Hyundai Motor America announced pricing for the new Genesis Coupe, starting at $22,000 for a well-equipped 210-horsepower, 2.0-liter, turbocharged, four-cylinder engine 2.0T model and $25,000 for the 306-horsepower, 3.8-liter, V6 engine model. Genesis Coupe will begin arriving at Hyundai dealerships later in the month.
“Genesis sedan set a new benchmark for the premium sedan segment and we think Genesis Coupe will do the same in the sport coupe arena,” said John Krafcik, Hyundai Motor America president and chief executive officer. “From our 30-mpg 2.0T with its low-pressure, intercooled, four-cylinder turbo, to the 3.8-liter Track model with 306 horsepower and Brembo® braking system, Genesis Coupe offers a wide range of powertrain and performance choices for driving enthusiasts of all stripes.”
2010 Genesis Coupe Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Pricing
Model Engine Package Transmission MSRP
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Six-Speed Manual $22,000
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Five-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $23,250
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Premium Six-Speed Manual $24,250
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Premium Five-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $25,500
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Track Six-Speed Manual $26,750
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. R-Spec * Six-Speed Manual $23,750
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Six-Speed Manual $25,000
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 ZF Six-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $26,500
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Grand Touring Six-Speed Manual $27,500
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Grand Touring ZF Six-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $29,000
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Track Six-Speed Manual $29,500
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Track ZF Six-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $31,000
Note: Add $750 freight charge
* Denotes mid-model year availability
Genesis Coupe 2.0T: A more efficient take on the rEAR-Wheel drive sport coupe
Standard equipment includes:
* 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged, intercooled 4-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering 210 hp, 223 lb.-ft. of torque (at just 2,000 rpm), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and a top speed of 137 mph
* M6VR1 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: A5SR1 5-speed electronic automatic transmission with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic® controls)
* 18-inch Euroflange alloy wheels with staggered Bridgestone Potenza RE92A tires (225/45VR18 front, 245/45VR18 rear)
* Electronic Stability Control with Traction control, ABS, Electronic Brake Force Distribution and Brake Assist
* 12.6-inch ventilated front rotors with 60mm single piston floating caliper
* 12.4-inch solid rear rotors with 43mm single piston floating caliper
* Sport-tuned MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and five-link rear independent suspension, 24mm front stabilizer bar, 19mm rear stabilizer bar
* Front strut brace
* Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
* Tire Pressure Monitoring System
* Front, side, side air curtain air bags
* Active front head restraints
* Driver’s lumbar support
* Black-out front lower fascia
* Air conditioning
* Satin silver and chrome interior accents
* Remote keyless entry system with alarm
* Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
* Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
* AM/FM/XM/MP3/CD audio system with six speakers
* iPod/ USB Aux jack connectivity
* Steering wheel audio controls
* Cruise control
* Trip computer
* Projector beam headlamps with auto light control
* Bluetooth® hands-free connectivity with steering wheel controls
The 2.0T Premium model adds or substitutes:
* Power driver’s seat
* 360-watt AM/FM/XM/MP3/CD-changer Infinity® premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
* Proximity Key with push-button start
* Auto-dimming mirror with HomeLink® and compass
* Power tilt and slide sunroof
* Navigation system (mid-model year availability, pricing TBA)
The factory-tuned 2.0T Track model builds from the 2.0T Premium, adding/substituting:
* 19-inch gunmetal-finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (225/40YR19 front, 245/40YR19 rear)
* Unique Brembo® braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
* Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, front strut brace
* Torsen-type limited-slip differential
* Black leather bolster seats with high-friction red cloth insert
* Aluminum pedals
* Aero wipers
* Rear spoiler
* Xenon HID (High Intensity Discharge) headlights
* Fog lamps
* Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
* Navigation system (mid-model year availability, pricing TBA)
* Note: Automatic transmission not available with 2.0T Track
Later in the model year, a tuner-focused performance model, R-Spec, will arrive at Hyundai dealerships. Genesis Coupe R-Spec is the ultimate upgradeable, affordable, turbocharged rear-wheel drive performance platform. R-Spec equipment includes:
* 2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering 210 hp, an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and a top speed of 137 mph
* 6-speed close-ratio manual transmission
* Electronic Stability Control with Traction Control, ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
* 19-inch gunmetal-finish alloy wheels with staggered-width high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (225/40YR19 front, 245/40YR19 rear)
* Brembo® braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
* Track-tuned suspension (higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, front strut brace)
* Torsen-type limited-slip differential
* Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
* Tire Pressure Monitoring System
* Front, side, side air curtain air bags
* Active front head restraints
* Driver’s lumbar support
* Air conditioning
* Remote keyless entry with alarm
* Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
* Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
* AM/FM/XM/MP3/CD audio system with six speakers
* iPod/ USB/Aux jack connectivity
* Projector beam headlamps
* Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
* Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec
Genesis 3.8: 306 horsepower and standard leather interior – a new benchmark for performance and refinement in its class
Standard equipment includes 2.0T equipment, and adds or substitutes:
* 3.8-liter DOHC V6 engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering 306 hp and a top speed of 149 mph
* M6VR2 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: ZF 6HP19 6-speed electronic automatic with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic® controls)
* Black leather seating surfaces
* Fully automatic temperature control
* Premium door sill plates
* Chrome front fascia accents
* Fog lights
In addition to 3.8 equipment, the 3.8 Grand Touring adds or substitutes:
* Unique brown leather seat interior environment
* Power driver’s seat
* Heated driver and passenger seat
* 360-watt AM/FM/XM/MP3/CD-changer Infinity® premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
* Proximity key with push-button start
* Xenon HID (High Intensity Discharge) headlamps
* Auto-dimming mirror with HomeLink® and compass
* Heated mirrors with outside turn signal indicators
* Backup warning system
* Power tilt and slide sunroof
* Navigation system (mid-model year availability, pricing TBA)
The factory-tuned 3.8 Track model deletes the backup warning system and chrome front fascia accents from the Grand Touring model, and adds or substitutes:
* Black leather seating surfaces
* 19-inch gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (225/40YR19 front, 245/40YR19 rear)
* Brembo® braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
* Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
* Torsen-type limited-slip differential
* Aluminum pedals
* Aero wipers
* Rear spoiler
* Black-out front lower fascia
* Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
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WhiteSpy9
Guest
I was excited to hear about the R-Spec, but I'm totally over it after seeing a picture.
LASERBLUE135
Active Member
You are crazy if you think its priced out of the market people.
What is your other option for a turbo 4 rwd?
100k warranty (carefull about mods...)
I think it's priced juuuuust right. Take a few grand off if they aren't selling out and you get an R spec for around $20k.
I personally don't find it that good looking in the pics, the 350Z is a close competitor if a little more spendy, and I f'ing HATE 19 inch rims (just give me some wide 17's thank you). But even after all that it's priced right.
What were you expecting $19,900? it's 2009 folks.
What is your other option for a turbo 4 rwd?
100k warranty (carefull about mods...)
I think it's priced juuuuust right. Take a few grand off if they aren't selling out and you get an R spec for around $20k.
I personally don't find it that good looking in the pics, the 350Z is a close competitor if a little more spendy, and I f'ing HATE 19 inch rims (just give me some wide 17's thank you). But even after all that it's priced right.
What were you expecting $19,900? it's 2009 folks.
ZoomZoom Diva
New Member
Out of the market? Seems like reasonable pricing to me at a glance...
My only issue would be the grand touring and track models will be including navigation versus optioning it out separately. Well, and that they won't put the manual in the sedan.
My only issue would be the grand touring and track models will be including navigation versus optioning it out separately. Well, and that they won't put the manual in the sedan.
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LASERBLUE135
Active Member
note the Z starts at $33,000 with 19's, brembos, and LSD.
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WhiteSpy9
Guest
I think the price is fairly attractive.
The fact that it still looks like a hyundai, not so much.
**EDIT**
It does look a lot better from this angle.
The fact that it still looks like a hyundai, not so much.
**EDIT**
It does look a lot better from this angle.
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Slim
Guest
Yeah that pricing is pretty solid. And it looks way better in that pic ^^^
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Z-licious
Guest
The pricing on the V6 is pretty good and met the expections they started about a year ago. The pricing on the 2.0T is about $2k more than expected. I'd probably just get a V6 now if I were to get one...
oh, joo wanted pics??
Side, front, back. I'd hit it! :Banane56:
oh, joo wanted pics??
Side, front, back. I'd hit it! :Banane56:
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LASERBLUE135
Active Member
If I was modding it. (duh) I'd get the 4 banger. If I just was rippin' it stock, the v6 sounds good.
I'm interested to see where this car goes in a few years since I'm not exactly in the market for a rwd coupe any time in the next...5 years or so probly.
(continued rant...grrr...19's on a $20k car is sooo dumb. I wonder how many poor young kids are going to pawn everything they own to pay for replacement rear tires?)
I'm interested to see where this car goes in a few years since I'm not exactly in the market for a rwd coupe any time in the next...5 years or so probly.
(continued rant...grrr...19's on a $20k car is sooo dumb. I wonder how many poor young kids are going to pawn everything they own to pay for replacement rear tires?)
dmention7
Hater
Funny that all the posted pics are of modded ones... aftermarket wheels, drops, aero kits... Stock it looks like poo.
Show me a car that can't me made to look good with $6k in visual mods and maybe I'll admit that I like it... lol
Hell, Kia had that Spectra5 at the auto show that was looking pretty sick with the same level of modding those cars have. Go figure.
Show me a car that can't me made to look good with $6k in visual mods and maybe I'll admit that I like it... lol
Hell, Kia had that Spectra5 at the auto show that was looking pretty sick with the same level of modding those cars have. Go figure.
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YSOSLO
is the word, beotch
lol....a big +1 Jay! I was totally looking through the pics and thinking the same thing....."coilovers, coilovers, expensive wheel/tire combo, tint, etc" and in the last pic with the 2 cars back-to-back....what the hell is up with the HUGE gap between the front and back of the tire and the lower line of the body, especially in the car on the right? I love the first pic because it doesn't look so old-Tiburon-ish, but that's the first halfway cool pic I've seen of the car. I guess I'll withhold final judgement until I see/drive it in person. For now, I'm still not convinced that this would be the car for me.
Picklz
SUDO Make me a SAMCH
I want to see one of these in person and take it for a drive, but I don't think it would really fit in with what I want. I think it picked a good spot in the market to try and fill, there really aren't many (any?) other RWD coupes out there that can be had for around 20-25k.
Also:
Wheels - $1200
Tint - $200
Springs - $250
$1650 ... I'd hardly consider that $6,000 in mods. If you can afford a 25k car I have to think you'd be able to afford a few hundred in tires once in a while and a couple grand in mods.
Also:
Wheels - $1200
Tint - $200
Springs - $250
$1650 ... I'd hardly consider that $6,000 in mods. If you can afford a 25k car I have to think you'd be able to afford a few hundred in tires once in a while and a couple grand in mods.